Every so often, I stop by my old stomping grounds just to see what it is that Democrats are up to, what the mood of the party is and so on. Daily Kos is not the whole of the Democratic Party by a long shot, but it represents a very active, very particular wing: liberal, middle-class, formally educated. As a certain nucleus of thought, Daily Kos serves as a window into the thinking of this branch of American liberalism. So I stop by, on the outside looking in.
Yesterday I peeked in and saw a story on the trending list, claiming that Michigan was in the win column for Kamala Harris — and the author of this piece asserted this from a base on the western side of the state. As a Michigander, that didn’t compute to me, as West Michigan is notoriously conservative. So I decided to give it a glance.
I kind of knew by the frame of the title that I was not going to find the piece particularly enjoyable or perhaps even very persuasive, because it pitted the garnering of votes against the political issue of Gaza. I don’t like this frame because it necessarily reduces the anguish of Gaza into a packaged domestic political issue. That in itself is a falsification.
The title of the piece is “No, we are not going to lose Michigan ‘because of Gaza. We will win because of West Michigan,” and the author basically claimed that he or she lives on the west side of the state. Due to an influx of Chicagoans, this person claimed, a subtle but sweeping change was occurring in the area.
This, the blueing of West Michigan — due to migration from Chicago is the big political story in Michigan. In 2020, Joe Biden actually won Kent County and got 36% in our very, very red county (Allegan — which includes the outskirts of Holland where my people live). Gretchen Whitmer and the Michigan Dems have built on this strength and our numbers are going to go up much more in 2024 (because the area is getting more and more progressive and less conservative).
I just spent the last week canvassing in Ottawa County (downtown Holland is in Ottawa) and was amazed at the level of support for the Democrats. Last Saturday, one voter who we had lit dropped chased after us to give us our lit back because she had already voted for Harris and wanted to be sure we could give it to someone else. The neighborhood — formerly the bastion of Dutch conservatives — was now filled with Harris Walz signs. South Shore Drive — a beautiful waterside road by Lake Macatawa — now has giant Harris Walz signs along with giant Trump flags. Our local rep- Hillary Scholten, is a Democrat.
I went to the Harris Walz rally on Friday at Riverfront park in Grand Rapids and joined a line of thousands waiting to enter the grounds (which made national news). The fact that our nominee would stop in Grand Rapids in late October is just incredible and a sign of changing times.
So, if you are from out of state and are worried about Michigan because you read an article about some folks mad at the ticket because of Gaza and then made the leap that this means we are going to lose Michigan, don’t be. These folks, who most likely have never step[ped] foot in the state, don’t understand Michigan or know about (or write about) what is happening in West Michigan.
This is the totality of the argument that western Michigan, a conservative bastion, was bluing in front of our eyes.
Now, it so happened that just a day earlier, people were complaining that too many essays (“diaries,” as they’re called there) were doom-and-gloom and/or fearmongering, and several diaries had demanded that the site feature more encouraging pieces. This diary, though not one written by paid staff, fit the fare that people there desired. They want to be fed information that tells them that swing states are winnable or that polls are wrong. So it goes.
I looked through the comment section, which was fairly extensive, and of course there were some people there debating points of the Palestine-Israel conflict, rather than if west Michigan might turn Democratic. This is to be expected. There also were people talking about domestic politics in a more meta way, as to whether the Democratic Party addressed the issue of Gaza in the way that it should have.
I’m sure people there would not appreciate me calling them Blue MAGA, but the enforced conformity is there. It’s palpable. The same people who swore to avenge Joe Biden for coming under pressure to step aside (even though he was headed for almost certain defeat) are now firmly in Harris’s corner, proclaiming outright that she is running a “perfect” campaign. It’s enough to give a person whiplash. But those people are intent that no one should second-guess the strategy of the Democratic Party.
One person brought up the fact that President Biden could have done more to rein in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
In response, someone posted this as a rejoinder:
Now, I lived through May. I was paying attention. I knew that what this person asserted simply is not true. Biden never tried to stop sending defensive weapons to Israel. This is a complete fabrication.
If I were being charitable, I would say that the person was simply snookered by the wording of the CNN headline to which he or she linked. However — and this is something I’ve mentioned to a friend of mine who still is active on that platform — the information under the link does not match what the person is claiming.
This happens a lot. My friend speculated that people feel reassured that a link is there, even if they never click on it. It gives the appearance that the claimant has done their due diligence, when in fact they’re misleading the reader.
If a person were to click on that CNN link, they would see that the article is about the House of Representatives jumping the gun and doing a performative end-run around Biden so as to take the decision out of his hands were he ever to contemplate it.
But he never did. He never mentioned restricting defensive weapons to Israel. In fact, he and others in his administration were adamant that Iron Dome and other components of Israel’s defense were not being considered for any scaleback. Indeed, the only item that Biden has restricted is the transfer of 2,000-lb. bombs (as well as 500-lb. bombs, but those transfers have since restored). That type of ordnance is not a defensive weapon. Even that bit of restraint brought whines from Netanyahu.
Biden never even breathed about restricting what the House ultimately mandated. But here’s this person at Daily Kos, trying to pass it off as though Biden did everything in his power to keep Netanyahu from his worst instincts. Biden has done nothing of the sort and in fact has been an eager partner, his occasional profane language (leaked to the press) to the contrary notwithstanding.
It pains me to see members of the place that built a reputation on being a “reality-based community,” one that did not allow for blatant distortions, to engage in such deceptive cheerleading.
I’m even more discouraged to see thirteen people uprate that comment, because that shows that they didn’t read the article under the link. The headline sounded good to them, and so they approved what it told them, about themselves and the Democratic Party. Moreover — and what’s so ominous about this — they did so in order to shut down the good-faith argument of the person pointing out the short-sightedness of Democratic strategy.
The issue of Gaza has altered the Democratic Party. It’s off its axis. People have stifled discussion because they have been afraid of how the issue might affect the election.
I don’t think there’s a way from here to get back to where we were.
Posts like the one this article cites illustrate why I think lots of Daily Kos users are racist. I don’t mean in the way that a place like 4chan has normalized racial slurs or how the Daily Caller will flat out say that victims of police brutality deserve it. Rather, there is a pervasive view that middle class college educated Western whites who identify with a centrist political party are the most enlightened demographic in the world, while the rest of us losers are uncivilized to varying degrees (for the record, I am middle class and college educated, but not white).
For example, the way posters on another diary were discussing the supposedly ingrained misogyny among Black and Hispanic men made my skin crawl. I’m not going to deny that such sentiments exist among some Black and Hispanic men (and women) but the way they were framing it as “the culture(s) that spawned ‘those people’ are clearly backward, deficient, and the opposite of mine” was gross.
Likewise, the way some posters are almost gleeful at the prospect of Muslim and/or Arab voters who “don’t fall in line” being deported or put in camps is vile. I’ve read that in Dearborn, people are attending funerals or memorials every day. There are individuals who have lost dozens of family members. If hypothetical Carole from Brookline, MA can’t understand why someone in Dearborn who has lost practically their entire family under a Democratic administration can’t see how things could get any worse under Trump, she’s either being dumb on purpose or she truly is permanently deranged by Trump. You would know better than I would, but it appears like just about every self-identified Arab and/or Muslim member at Daily Kos has gotten BoJoed for trying to discuss Middle Eastern issues as a person whose community/family has been negatively affected by US foreign policy. The Uncommitted movement tried to appeal to party leadership during the Democratic Convention and they were basically told to get lost and that nothing was going to change in regard to Palestine. If that’s truly the case, why do so many Daily Kos readers feel like Kamala Harris is entitled to their votes?
In a way, I think that Trump’s win in 2016 was a godsend for the DNC. It became evident to me in 2017 that the DNC was using Hillary’s loss to marginalize the social democratic wing (aka Bernie Bros) while also promoting her as this wronged beacon of democracy. Trump’s terrible optics also meant that even the most lackluster Democrats could be portrayed as paragons of responsible and progressive (but not really, wink-wink) governance. As long as Blue MAGA pushes mindless conformity to the elderly and out of touch leadership and frightens people with the specter of Trump, the rank and file will gladly keep marching to the right. To be a “reality based community” would require Daily Kos users to realize that the Democratic Party of 2024 is ideologically the same as the GOP of 2002, but I doubt that will happen.
Lastly, don’t know if you would know this, but I’ve been wondering about the exact relationship is between Daily Kos and the Democratic Party as an organization. Is that site just an unofficial meeting group for Boomer and Gen X Democratic super-fans or is it a front for disseminating official talking points to the rank and file? The way that anyone who doesn’t think that the fossilized centrist leadership are the reincarnation of the New Deal cabinet gets BoJoed makes me wonder. I know that any political site has its ideological limits, but the way that the DNC is purging its ranks of DSAers and the enthusiastic response to said purges (while still demanding that social democrats uncritically support centrist non-entities) indicates that the supposed Big Tent of the Democrats can contain the Cheneys
but not Cori Bush. Clearly, the Overton Window is moving far to the right, but users there don’t seem to perceive it.
DK has changed quite a bit. Or maybe it’s the same ol same ol and I have changed. I think there is a close knit and rather large group of well knowns who have decided they are the adults in the room and that their work is necessary in order to shape a certain narrative.
It really irked me with all the support for Garland and his decision to drag out the pursuit of criminal charges against Trump for Jan6. It seemed this effort to protect Garland was coordinated. I sort of soured on the place around that time. Then Gaza and ANY support for Palestinians and any support for student protests was attacked at the least and in many cases, a comment in support of the Palestinians got flagged or the commenter was accused of antisemitism. I try to be reasonable and I got a warning from admin for recommending a comment. I lost the ability to comment until I removed the rec. Since then, I have avoided most diaries that pertain to Israel and I am sure my views are unpopular over there with regard to Gaza and Israel.
I do think tho that Harris has been a great candidate. I will be voting for her. I disagree with American foreign policy concerning Israel. I hope we change course. A Trump win will make everything much much worse. Exponentially worse. So as I said, I will be voting for Harris. Without hesitation. There is no other candidate that has even a tiny chance of beating Trump.
But yeah, DK has its own little corner of the universe and I think it likely that the regulars over there (big names with huge followings) have an outsized view of their importance. All true tho… a Trump win will be absolutely catastrophic. I am sure of this.
As for who wins Michigan, I can’t make a prediction. But I think our support for Israel hurts with young voters. It hurts in Michigan. And most importantly, it is devastating for the Palestinian people who are suffering and dying and facing extermination. Like your essay mentioned few days back, this damages all of humanity. When we provide support and weapons used in a genocide, we are not direct victims. But it does cut into our humanity. As we cast about for excuses, we are liars. We will be writing a history of this time in a way that excuses our policy. But there is no excuse. I hope we change course.